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    OK, this is either the most scurrilous piece of journalism the Sunday Times has ever perpetrated, or the most worrying sign yet from the Brexit fiasco, but the ST published a story yesterday insisting the government was preparing to issue a travel warning for next year, telling people not to plan ANY trips abroad after March 29. It sounds absolute nonsense, and TravelMole has a story tearing it down to day (see below), but does anyone think this could be on the cards, and is there more about the story on the News today?

    Published on Monday, December 17, 2018
    Industry rocked by 'scaremongering' Sunday Times report

    The travel industry has been shaken by a report in a national newspaper over the weekend claiming the government is considering issuing a warning to Brits not to book holidays after March 29 in case of a Brexit no-deal.

    Ministers were quick to dismiss the front page story in the Sunday Times, which claimed the warning is part of contingency plans being drawn up by the government to prepare for a no-deal scenario.

    The report even claimed the government is considering bailing out travel companies whose businesses might be impacted as a result of the warning.

    Senior officials fear the advice could lead to bankruptcies in the industry, said the Sunday Times.

    Tour operators and agents were both shocked and bemused by the report.

    Sunvil managing director Chris Wright said it was 'just another story created by the press to instill fear into the minds of the public'.

    "We find it hard to believe that traditional holiday destinations for the British, from Spain to Greece, are likely to allow such a ridiculous scenario to play out.

    "With the speed of news at the moment, hopefully the article will fade into the background to be overtaken by something else."

    AITO has written to the Sunday Times editor asking why the article didn't seek any response from the travel industry, despite acknowledging the shock it would cause.

    It has also written to local MPs demanding an urgent response from the Prime Minister that there won't be any disruption to air travel in a no-deal Brexit.

    Throughout the Brexit negotiations, the government has consistently reassured the industry there will be no risk of disruption.

    John Tangney', deputy chair of AITO, added: "AITO is very disturbed to read The Sunday Times'' report, more especially following repeated assurances from HM Government that it is not true. It is a great shame that The Sunday Times seems to be trying to undermine or destabilise the travel industry.

    "Bear in mind that if people cannot go abroad, it will hit inbound traffic too - and business travellers - thus damaging our own holiday and hotel industries severely, and potentially hampering business deals to the detriment of the UK."

    Cruise association CLIA also expressed its dismay. "To say we were surprised and disappointed to read the story, which is simply not true, in the Sunday Times yesterday is an understatement," said a spokeswoman.

    "Comments such as this coming from the government are unhelpful and reckless, and we urge the government to instead focus on clarifying plans for Brexit as speedily as possible."

    ABTA issued a statement on Sunday in a bid to calm any fears among the British public.

    "Number 10 has said that the content of the report in the Sunday Times is categorically untrue," said a spokesman.

    "The European Commission has said that even in a no-deal scenario, flights will still operate between the UK and EU, and a visa is not required.

    "ABTA is providing holidaymakers and travellers with advice about Brexit and travel, including on pet passports and driving licences, which can be found at abta.com/brexit."

    Following the Sunday Times report, Brittany Ferries took the chance to reassure customers that ferry services won't be affected.

    "Shipping operates to international maritime law, rather than European agreements," said CEO Christophe Mathieu.

    "Accordingly, there is no question that we will continue to sail as normal on March 30 2019 and beyond, even if we are facing a no-deal Brexit.

    "Those who have already booked with us should be reassured and those looking to their 2019 voyage can book with confidence."

    The Sunday Times report came days after it was confirmed that Brits will be charged 7 to visit EU from 2021.

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    Let's just say it all goes haywire and Brits need a visa to visit any location outside the UK (which isn't going to happen), isn't there likely to be a lead-in time for that? The borders aren't going to slam shut on March 29, 2019. I can imagine there would be utter chaos if this goes to a No-Deal Brexit, but it's a process, not a guillotine.











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    This is just tragic news reporting, absolute ********! So what of all the Brits that travel to places outside of the EU already, it happens. Some places need a visa, some an Esta type authority, but many nothing.

    Not so long ago there was a story that because of Brexit British pilots woud not be able to fly to Europe. Balpa pointed out that pilot's licences are international. And so it goes.

    If (when) the UK leaves the EU, the world will not stop.
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    I think it is all scaremongering (bit like what happened at the millenium!). Alan still thinks there will be another referendum but I'm not sure. Total shambles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catlady View Post
    Alan still thinks there will be another referendum but I'm not sure.
    I just can't see this happening, the constitutional crisis that would come about could be massive. Every vote in parliament, every election would be challenged in court.

    Remember all three major parties supported the referendum (only the Scots Nats didn't) and the bill was passed 544 to 53, so Parliament knew what the potential was.
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    The weather does not seem to sell newspapers any more so I suppose panic mongering about Brexit will do. I hear there is going to be an enormous storm on March 29th that will shift our island approximately 4,300 miles South West after which we will be able to walk across a short beach to Florida and grow oranges for a living.

    Such an enormous clash of ideologies between European unelected mandarins who consider themselves some kind of new aristocracy and are actually offended that anyone should say no thanks (and are probably terrified of what might happen when the UK prospers as a result), MP's on both sides in the UK who are offended by the idea that decisions are made in europe without them, the Irish (no idea what they want), the Welsh and the Scottish who want to be governed by Brussels but are offended by the idea of being governed by Westminster.

    Meanwhile in the real world we carry on working, our mortgage interest rate remains at more or less zero and we get to spend more money than we probably should exploring the world.

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    The government HAS come up with a statement about the story overnight, and there is a strong - if slightly limited - rebuttal. Here's TravelMole's latest:

    Published on Tuesday, December 18, 2018
    Transport Secretary steps in to reassure industry after Brexit article furore

    The Secretary of State for Transport has written an open letter reiterating the 'very strong rebuttal' from No 10 following a shocking report in the Sunday Times at the weekend.

    The report, which shook the industry, claimed the government is considering issuing a warning to Brits not to book holidays after March 29 in case of a Brexit no-deal.

    Ministers were quick to dismiss the front page story, which even suggested the government was considering bailing out travel companies put at risk.

    In a letter addressed to the aviation industry yesterday, Chris Grayling said he wanted to provide further reassurance and to be clear on the Government's position with regards to Brexit.

    But, noticeably, he did not categorically state that flights will continue to operate no matter what the outcome of the Brexit negotiations.

    Instead, his letter said: "As you will already be aware, both the UK and the EU have made clear their desire to ensure flights between the UK and EU continue in any scenario. I believe both the UK and the EU have a determination to retain the aviation links which bring such significant economic and cultural benefits for both sides.

    "This department fully recognises the importance of giving passengers and businesses confidence to book their holidays and business trips to and from the EU after Brexit.

    "So as I mentioned at the last industry roundtable, we are exploring what communications will be needed to provide that reassurance. I would like to continue to work with you on precisely this in the coming days. I hope this provides you with some reassurance and look forward to further discussions with you in the coming weeks and months."

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    See this is another example of political stupidity.

    Imagine who loses out in (the extremely remote case flights can't go to Europe from the UK). The Spanish, Italians, Greeks, Portugese, Bulgarians etc who rely on the British holiday maker.
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    Too true, TF. But the issue rumbles on, with yet another example of how pathetic the Times and Sunday Times have become. This is today's TravelMole stoiry:

    Published on Wednesday, December 19, 2018
    Industry outraged again as The Times tells subscribers: 'Cancel your summer holiday'

    The Times and Sunday Times newspapers have upset the travel industry again by sending out an email to subscribers with the subject line 'Cancel your summer holiday'.

    The email prompts subscribers to read their two complimentary articles for the week and lists the most popular recent stories.

    Top of the list is the story which ran on Sunday claiming that families will be advised not to book holidays after March.

    The report, which has riled travel businesses, says the government is considering issuing the warning as part of contingency plans being drawn up to prepare for a no-deal Brexit.

    The claim was immediately denied by number 10, but travel companies say the damage has already been done.

    TravelMole has contacted the Sunday Times for a response and AITO and ABTA have also written to the newspaper to raise their concerns.

    AITO executive director Kate Kenward said: "The Times and Sunday Times editorial and marketing departments are clearly not speaking to each other.

    "I find it astounding that these papers are behaving like the red tops, sensationalising a story to sell papers/subscriptions which could not only harm hundreds of businesses and jobs but also rob consumers of their right to a holiday.

    "They are risking their own integrity by publishing unsubstantiated articles and only adding to consumers angst about the current situation with Brexit."

    ABTA chief executive Mark Tanzer added: "On Sunday the national media included our statement, which refutes the claim and highlights that the European Commission has confirmed that, even in the event of a no-deal, flights will operate and a visa will not be required.

    "We have since written to the Sunday Times to raise our concerns about the article, and have also been in touch with Ministers and officials at Government.

    "We are encouraging ABTA Members to share our Brexit advice with their customers, a downloadable pdf can be found in the MemberZone along with a graphic for use across online channels."

    It is also reaching out to consumers directly through a social media advertising campaign providing reassurances that deal or no-deal, flights will continue.

    On Monday Transport Secretary Chris Grayling published an open letter to the aviation industry in a bid to calm their concerns.

    But the letter fell short of giving a guarantee that planes will continue to fly if there's a no-deal Brexit.

    LibDem leader Vince Cable told the travel industry it was simply 'caught in a foolish and dangerous game of chicken' by the government, which is trying to frighten MPs and the wider public into supporting the prime minister's exit plan.

    Vince, who is MP for Twickenham where AITO is based, was responding to a letter from the association of specialist operators demanding an apology from the government.

    AITO also called for an assurance to the British public that flights will not stop, as has already been assured to the industry.

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    And now the media is full of it. No wonder Brexit is so utterly, hopelessly screwed up:

    From TravMedia today:

    A survey commissioned by the UK's leading beach holiday specialist, On the Beach, has revealed that Brexit will have no impact on 2019 holiday plans for the majority of the British public.

    The survey of 1,000 Brits found that half of Britons (50%) stated that Brexit will not impact their holiday plans, and that 86% plan to take the same number of holidays abroad or more in 2019 as they did in 2018.

    Home or abroad

    Almost a third (32%) said they plan on taking more foreign holidays next year than they did in 2018, compared to 27% who say they will be booking more holidays in the UK.

    The survey revealed that more than half (54%), are intent on enjoying the same number of holidays abroad in 2019, as they did this year. Only 14% of Brits expect to take fewer foreign holidays next year.

    Millennials are most likely to enjoy more foreign holidays next year, with over half (56%) of 16-24-year olds saying they will increase the number of breaks they take outside of the UK. Just one in 10 Brits from the same age group plan on taking fewer holidays in 2019.

    The survey also revealed that almost nine out of 10 (89%), will still book a European beach holiday next year, despite the recent announcement that there will be a fee of €7 for Britons travelling to the EU, post Brexit.

    13% of respondents said that they would be looking at holidays further afield, outside of Europe, as a result of Brexit.

    Brexit day

    More than eight in 10 (83%) stated that they would happily holiday abroad on Brexit day (29 March 2019), though uncertainties around Brexit mean that 17% will avoid being abroad on holiday on or around this day.

    Holiday spending

    The survey also asked holidaymakers if they plan on splashing more money on their holidays next year compared to this, and found that over a quarter (26%) will increase their holiday spend in 2019, whilst 40% will budget the same as they did during 2018.

    Whilst a third (33%), plan on spending less on their holidays in 2019, just 12% said they would be willing to forego trips, if they were forced to make financial cut backs next year.

    The research conducted by the online travel agent, found that holidays feature high on Britons' list of spending priorities, as one of the last things that they would be willing to give up.

    Meals out topped the list of items people would be willing to forego (38%), followed by nights on the town (35%).

    Almost a quarter (23%) would happily sacrifice leisure activities, such as nights at the cinema or theatre, before giving up on their week in the sun.

    According to the research, Brits would also be willing to relinquish other major items, such as a new car (25%) and home improvements (20%).

    With Christmas just a few days away, the survey revealed the only thing more important to Brits than their holidays, is gifts for friends and family, with only 11% saying they would happily save money on these items if they were forced to make cut backs.

    Alan Harding, Marketing Director at On the Beach comments: “Our survey suggests that Brits largely do not expect Brexit to change their holiday plans for 2019, with the majority planning to take the same or more number of holidays abroad next year as they did in 2018.

    “The results of our survey also show just how important holidays are for hard working Brits, with their week in the sun almost topping their list of disposable income spending priorities."
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